Talk:Role-Playing Nations (Archive)/@comment-24.45.218.241-20120620013447/@comment-3300047-20120621151929

Arabia is not Ottoman. So it IS Open.

Poland/Lithuania is Saxon :P which de facto means its belongs to Batorhos

Also Tyler, Ukraine is Russian, however considering Russia thinks that they can carve Bohemia out of Austria, then they can't object to you carving Ukraine out of Russia.