Gamers Fanon Wiki talk:Roleplay Council/Denied nation requests

A list of the denied nation requests to the Roleplay Council.

Request For Persia Application July 2012 It wont let me type so im doing it up here im requesting the persia and all its territories my regards to you all Basil Brawlmonk
You have already been denied Persia, I would recommend you stop putting up applications before you start getting strikes.
 * 21:35, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * 21:35, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Romania Application June 2012
Romania requests to claim the Great Area of Australia

We would be greatly pleased if we obtain such territory

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Regards 20:49, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think this idea could work, its better a country than terra nullis

 Robert  Mc  Roberts For Crown and County!  00:52, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Now addressing this. As I said below, Australia in 1745 is a barely-explored, mystery-enshrouded land mass. The Dutch barely paid any attention to Australia while they had it, so if you really do want it, you'd only be ruling it as a governor of the Dutch, and your land would be extremely limited to the north / northwestern coasts. The British don't get involved until the 1770s. And Robert, if it is better a country than terra nullis, does that mean Antarctica is up for grabs?

--  Jeremiah Garland

Ukraine
Switzerland requests permission to claim the area of Ukraine.

Tyler Crossbones

Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire, and in fact, remained part of Russia until 1991 when the Soviet Union dissolved.

Jeremiah Garland

Per Garland, no.



No longer needed
my views have changed.

I would like to point out, that despite me being the manager, I have had absolutely nothing to do with anything that has happened on this page. I was not part of the rulings, not part of any decisions, the only thing I have managed to contribute so far was the page's title...



Jack, I mean do disrepsect to you in any way, but how can you be the president of the Role-play Council when you're not that big of a role-player? From what I've seen so far, this council should be ran by ONLY role-players, and lead by the three largest role-players, who would be (to me) John Breasly, Jeremiah Garland, and possibly Johnny Goldtimbers. The council should then be made up of three role-players from each country such as: Russia, Spain, France, England and any other largely-affiliated-with-roleplay countries. There should be a representative from each country's government, navy, and trade.

-- James Macstealer

I'm frowned upon many?

King   Faye IV    of Malta   10:38, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Mallace brings up some good points. I think that to make it fair for everybody, and so people like Bohemian King (yeah, we're gonna pick on him) don't get more land than others, we base your roleplay prestige on experience. In other words, the longer you've been on the wiki, and/or the longer you've been here, as well as how many people follow your country, the more land/power/money/etc. you have. In a sense, like the first-come-first-serve method. It's really the only way. We can't carve up land somebody like say, Breasly, claimed literally two years ago to give to a new user who just joined the wiki yesterday and wants land to own. We'd have to keep it historical, but also keep it according to all land claimed before the "no claiming land" rule. I know a first-come-first-serve method might be controversial, but it really is the only way to keep it fair for people who have been here longer and have more followers. Just a suggestion.

--  Jeremiah Garland

@Garland This is about the worst idea ever. It would be a very complex and overbearing system to determine if someone else has been here long enough and how much land that transfers to. Every country remaining is tiny, and people are only allotted one unclaimed country. We are not allowed to carve out other people's countries.

{C} Robert  Mc  Roberts For Crown and County!  17:01, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay Robert. You're right. Let's just take, say... Denmark, a country that John actually fought for for months and has added to his empire, and give it to Will Greasescarlett because he says he wants to be a roleplayer. Good thinking! Let's do that!

If you actually read what I said, and maybe processed it through your brain, you would've noticed that I said "we can't carve up people's countries". Keyword there is can't, as in, I'm against it. Maybe you should read something twice and make sure you understand it before calling it the "worst idea ever", okay?

--   Jeremiah Garland Rob you are officially uninvited to this thread.

-unknown Um, If you actually follow the instructions found at this page

Welcome Robert Mc Roberts, to the Roleplay council!

{C}Here is where you may request ownership of unclaimed countries ( view this page )

To make a request, please go to this page

You would have looked at the Roleplay map of unclaimed countries (you know the one I made that had everything BEFORE the rule?)

http://potcoplayers.wikia.com/wiki/File:Claimes.png

This shows quite clearly that Denmark is not available.

Also I never suggested we would carve out countries, I never suggested YOU supported it. You used an example of someone carving out a country, to which I said that couldn't happen

Reread my message, you have missed the complete substance of the message.

{C}Robert  Mc <font face=Mongolian Baitit size=4px color=#000080> Roberts <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=1px color=#00FFFF>For Crown and County!  17:01, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Also, one last thing I may point out.

Every single roleplaying country besides Britain and Russia... has 1-3 people.

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 * Not necessarily. Some like Japan and the Ottoman Empire are slightly bigger than 1-3… still small, but growing nonetheless :P--<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge blue; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(blue), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, blue, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Parax  17:09, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

From what Ive read, it is just sad. @Mallace The Council would be first of all looking into the Role-Player's Experience and such. You may apply however it is not guranteed you will get what you want. For Example, I want Australia.. I am applying to get it however that does not mean I will or anyone will. @Garland We really shouldnt do it off experience of being on this WIKI, more so role play in general. Some have been in role play for very long in game but only joined the wiki right now. AlsoThe Council is probably (Don't quote me I could be wrong) trying to make it fair for smaller countries grab land by doing it the way they are. What you're suggesting is breaking the balance and having a, what I call, Rich and Poor system.

{C}Now another thing, WHY THE ARGUEMENT? Why cant we do this in peaceful terms in a PM on chat, and if you can not manage to do that, then that's being an idiot and many other things. I would like to be able to edit and enjoy in peace. Once again I am very close to requesting something that could change this fighting/arguement out of handness.



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No, I got it pretty clearly. And yes, it was an example, as you stated. An example, as in, don't take it literally, I was just using it to prove a point. And no offense to the map you made, but it sucks. Nobody follows it. Hate to be honest here, but it is true. You can stay out of this, and worry about your own country. I realise this thread is for everybody to put in suggestions, but what you're doing right now isn't "suggesting". In a nut shell, what you are doing is seeing somebody's suggestion (mine), criticizing it, calling it the worst idea ever, and then basically saying there's nothing wrong with it. I hardly understand your logic. In fact, I doubt anybody on this wiki understands your logic. You get in arguments with everybody, get completely OWNED, and then turn everything around on everybody and blame things on other people. And on top of that, you're never wrong! John was right! You can never admit that maybe you lost an argument, or one guy proved you wrong. You can't admit it. Also, I'd like to bring up the point that from July 2011 until March 2012, you were inactive. Nine months. A lot happens on here in nine bloody months, Robert, so who are you to jump in on everything going on here, and decide what is best for the wiki? You clearly have no idea how roleplay operates here, and you aren't going to get your voice heard by criticizing others' ideas to make them look bad. So as I said, don't worry about this. This doesn't concern you. Mallace had a legit reason of argument above, and I provided the thread with a considerable solution to all issues here. Did I say it would be the solution? No. I didn't. It was a bloody suggestion, and you come here and attack it. Pitiful, Robert, pitiful.

--  Jeremiah Garland

P.S. Did you just delete a message posted by another user (the user who made this thread)? Because I didn't know that was allowed.

Yup, he did. Robert, I dear hope your block request continues, because I can gurantee you its going to go far.

Heres a plus one for reasons:"Deletes posts he doesn't like and thinks noboy will notice."

Jeremiah is completely right.

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Albert, as I said, it was a suggestion. And honestly, I think it would be the most effiecent method. I realise there are some newer people to the wiki who want a turn at owning the "bigger" countries, but, frankly, that's not how things should work here. People like John and yes, even me, make pages, create guilds, operate systems, even make whole bloody wikis for our countries, and we can't carve them up because the newer users want certain land. That's just their bloody fault.

'Also, what would you plan to do with Australia? It certainly can't be a kingdom, because at this point, it's an unofficial colony of the Netherlands. And just curious, what's wrong with Romania?

--  Jeremiah Garland

Jeremiah Chat please

-unknown

Jeremiah, I have my reasons for taking such land, I have my logic that you may never ever understand. I also never said newer people wanted bigger countries. I said countries in general and people in general. And who are you to say how things should work? This shall be my last comment in this thread. If you really need to arguye more, do PM me in chat.



<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;">@Jeremiah, My Map does not suck, It has a greater detail of anything YOU could ever make.

I have an idea of how some things work, but because I was inactive for 9 months doesn't mean I cannot comment on anything.

Also, how have I lost an argument when you never even responded to me after one post! You make as much sense as John does sometimes...

Also I do not get "OWNED", you say I do because you can't continue an argument. Maybe you cannot understand my logic, but many others are capable of that level of thought.

I did not agree with anything in your point except that you cannot carve out others countries, which is already common sense.

Also I said ALOT was wrong with it, you would have to make specific rules that would say how much time = how much land etc.

Also, I was wrong on Poland for an example, and I have yet to see you or John do the same thing.

Also, I can say an Idea is not good, especially If i provide reasns like I did

Also, I readded "Rob you are officially uninvited to this thread." since that was SUCH a damn important addition to the post, and It did not have a signature to begin with.

{C}<font face=Mongolian Baiti size=4px color=#000080> Robert <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=4px color=#000080> Mc <font face=Mongolian Baitit size=4px color=#000080> Roberts <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=1px color=#00FFFF>For Crown and County!  17:32, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

I dont mean to but in, but has anyone seen my soap?

-Jeffrey B

Come on guys, is it really necessary to fight about this? Let's have a mature conversation, okie? So far all I see is pointless arguing over imaginary land. Do you guys know how ridiculous that is?--<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge blue; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(blue), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, blue, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Parax  17:40, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Parax, we're being mature. It is Robert who is bringing up irrelevant points and thinks he runs roleplay.

Robert... --   Jeremiah Garland
 * Actually, it sort of does. Why do you think Curycoo got demoted? Because he was inactive for so long. If I went inactive for 3/4 of a year like you did, heck, I wouldn't even expect to have Russia anymore.
 * I did respond?
 * If that level of thought is of a moron, than yes, you're right. I never back out of an argument.
 * Good, I'm glad you have some logic.
 * First of all, you spelled "a lot" wrong... It's two words, but I'm going to ignore that for now. Obviously, Robert, we'd make rules and outlines to the suggestion I put forth. It was a rough outline of how I think things should be, I'm sorry I didn't write up a full bloody constitution for you.
 * I've admitted to a lot of my mistakes. Want proof? I'll admit maybe I was a little power-hungry with the LIN initially, not anymore.
 * I know that, I understand that you can lightly criticize my suggestion to make it better. But that doesn't mean saying "that is the worst idea I've ever heard". That isn't criticism, that's you being a jerk.
 * It doesn't matter what the message said. You still can't erase something another user wrote.

Albert, if you really want, Australia could be your's. Have at it. But, you'd have to ask Jarod if you could rule it as a governor and you'd be getting a lot less than you think...

--  Jeremiah Garland

"Parax, we're being mature. It is Robert who is bringing up irrelevant points and thinks he runs roleplay." LOL

I do not think I run roleplay, and I am not the one conquering other nations, and I am not the one who excludes legitimate nations from a "Leaguge of Independent Nations" because Russia claimes it somehow has a protectorate on bohemia when nobody else recognizes it but your nation and its puppets ...

So, I cannot comment on any roleplay that happened after March then? what about stuff I was informed about from other people? If your gone on vacation, can we tell you "oh Russia was conquered while you were gone", and because you were gone you cannot comment on it?

Your "response" ignored all of my message except a small grammatical errors which you blew out of proportion to make me look bad.

Well, don't criticize me for doing the same thing then.

I have alot of Logic, and that was the only thing logical in your post

This rough outline still had a lot wrong with it, and making a more detailed version woudln't help the situation at all. This proposal will need a lot of complex rules, and restrictions and it will be difficult for others to participate in roleplay and for the council to handle it.

You still are power hungry, you deny countries admission because Russia wants more land at thier expense.

This is a horrible idea though, It makes things alot more complex for little to no gain.

If he actually put a signature, I wouldn't have removed it because It wouldn't interfeer with my message, But whatever, I added it back, and he still needs to add his signature.

<font face=Mongolian Baiti size=4px color=#000080>Robert <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=4px color=#000080> Mc <font face=Mongolian Baitit size=4px color=#000080> Roberts <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=1px color=#00FFFF>For Crown and County!  18:14, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Let's start thinking about how funny this video is instead of fighting over role-playing land:



Pencil- (talk)

Looks like that guy is doing FUS RO DAH ^ xD




 * Bohemia was a misunderstanding. I gave it back to John and that is settled. Don't bring it back up or it will only cause more problems.


 * Actually, since I'm courteous, if I left for a nine month "vacation", I would allow somebody else to rule Russia. Why? Because I'm not a selfish hog that holds onto land when I'm inactive.


 * It was a response nonetheless. Why are you complaining?


 * I'm not criticizing you, you're criticizing me.


 * Again... "a lot" is two separate words, but whatever. And if that is the only thing "logical" in my suggestion, could you please thoroughly and intelligently explain to me what is "unlogical" about the rest? I'd love to know.


 * It was a suggestion on what I thought of the question at hand. It wasn't an "outline", I was being sardonic about that. How do you know it'd be difficult for the council to handle? If anything, it'd be easier. They wouldn't have to keep track of dozens of small one-man kingdoms.


 * Rofl, that made no sense. Do you even know what the LIN does? Yes, obviously Russia wants more land.


 * Again, I can't imagine a more complex solution. If you can, be my guest, propose it instead of pointlessly denying mine and calling it horrible. Be productive for once, instead of destructive.


 * Good boy.

--  Jeremiah Garland

My tummy speaks to me.

Pencil- (talk)


 * It is currently Austrian, not even the English dispute that


 * How was I selfish? I didn't rule anything! However, when people were claiming that Bohemia existed while I was gone, and I asked Hannah and Dandan if they had ever been fought over it (or fought others all), and they were active during those 9 months.


 * Because it wasn't a real response, because a response is supposed to add something to the conversation


 * You want to block me for the exact same thing you do...


 * I've been trying to tell you what is wrong but you wont listen! What is wrong is that you will need to make a set of overly complex rules to specify how much land people can get in how much time since you suggested we base how much land people can get on how much time they have spent here.


 * How would it be EAISER?!?!? The council would have to look through alot of rules, try to determine if the person is worthy etc.


 * You say the LIN is to " <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:21px;">The League of Independent Nations (LIN) <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:21px;">is an international organization comprised of allied nations with the common goal of unity. The main purposes of the League of Independent Nations is to promote universal peace, establish strong relations financially and socially, and to recognize the independent nations of the world (whether they are part of the LIN or not). The LIN is currently composed of eight nations. " Your not promoting Universal peace by dragging on claiming Bohemia as an independent nation when nobody else does. All that does is promote conflict.


 * Here is an idea, don't restrict people from claiming unclaimed countries! simple as that.

<font face=Mongolian Baiti size=4px color=#000080> Robert <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=4px color=#000080> Mc <font face=Mongolian Baitit size=4px color=#000080> Roberts <font face=Mongolian Baiti size=1px color=#00FFFF>For Crown and County!  19:04, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

This is going to be my last argument, because honestly I'm sick and tired of your immaturity, Robert. You think you're right about everything, don't even try denying it. --  Jeremiah Garland   '
 * Good, then problem solved.
 * ROFL, I never said you were selfish.
 * I'm sorry, I can't hack into your brain and know when you have read something wrong.
 * Why would we need complex rules??? It's simple. Experience + people in you country = more roleplay prestige. Honestly, that's how it's been going for years now, but now that I put it in writing, you argue it. And frankly, even if there were "complex rules", I'm committed to help write those rules, Robert.
 * For a third time... "A lot" is two words. And like I said, I'm willing to go through these rules. And if a new user is "worthy" enough to be given a sizable nation, then they may choose whichever is available.
 * Stop being so butthurt about Bohemia. Like I said, it was a misunderstanding, so shut up about it. (There. There's another example in which I admit I was wrong).
 * They can claim them, just ask through here first. Because the problem is, there are people who tend to claim nations that are either: A) already claimed, and didn't realise it, or B) are historically non-existing as a country at this time (example: Albert Spark claiming Australia). Do you remember Jason Shiprat claiming the Ottoman Empire a few months back? Oh wait, of course you don't; you were inactive. Well, it was a disaster. I think that's why the rule was set up. People kept on claiming countries without researching anything and it became unbearable.
 * They can claim them, just ask through here first. Because the problem is, there are people who tend to claim nations that are either: A) already claimed, and didn't realise it, or B) are historically non-existing as a country at this time (example: Albert Spark claiming Australia). Do you remember Jason Shiprat claiming the Ottoman Empire a few months back? Oh wait, of course you don't; you were inactive. Well, it was a disaster. I think that's why the rule was set up. People kept on claiming countries without researching anything and it became unbearable.

My word on the matter is that Britain is the only powerhead on this game. I could destroy all of you if I desired, but I do not desire to. But you're making me want to >.<

--<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge maroon; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(maroon), to(gold)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, maroon, gold); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> John Breasly ,   Former Admin  19:42, June 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't respond to my post, you accused me of saying something I didn't, and did not respond at all to my main post
 * My Block request is basically because I argue with people and do not yield, you voted Support.
 * Experience (how do you measure this exactly??) + People in country (what stops people from joining several countries?)=roleplay presitige (which is what exactly?). This system makes no sense in relation to people getting new unclaimed countries and in general (what does prestige even do? and how to you measure/determine it)
 * How do you measure "worthiness"?
 * A)Hence why we made a map, and a list of existing countries.... B)we can have fictionus flying machines but people can't colonize terra nullis?
 * I get it, I was inactive, there is no point rubbing it in that you had the freetime to be on here, and I had other things to attend to.
 * I do not know the situation, but unless they were not claiming existing countries (or ficticious countries that exist on existing plots of land) I personally see no issue with it.

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Spain
Hello I am the GM of Vida Del Pirata, more known as Evan, and I am applying to be the king of Spain! I know that Carlos may be the the king as of now, but he is the worst pirate I have ever met. He is atempting to destroy my guild and the british guild as well. We are working to take down Pearson Wright ( Carlos ), and to kick him out of power, and putting me in. Vida Del Pirata is growing, and Casa Del Royal is falling, and THIS, Gentlemen and women, is why we need a new leader. This is why I am going to make a better king, and this is why it will happen. Changes will take place if I become the new leader, such as allainces. For Spania!

From,

The new King of Spaina, Evan.

Hey there Evan, and welcome to the wiki! I'm Jeremiah Garland, an (un)official member of the Roleplay Council, and Tsar of Russia. You will soon learn that we here on the wiki share a dislike of Pearson, as you do. Personally, I think announcing a new King of Spain would not only break us away from our "Pearsonphobia" but also fill a largely empty and needed gap in the roleplay world. It is for this reason that I support and approve. If the others approve (and I'm most certain they will), it looks like you're all set. As soon as this is officially approved, you are encouraged to make a page or two about your roleplay country, and come up with a roleplay name if you don't have one already. Also, would Spain be interested in joining the League of Independent Nations? We are an international organization of all the world's roleplaying nations, much similar to the United Nations of today. Thank you again for contacting the Roleplay Council with your request, and have a good evening.

--  Jeremiah Garland   00:02, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Great Tsar- I hate to burst your ever so elegant bubble, but might I ask whatever happened to Madster...?

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She's inactive both from wikia and game (though she seldom makes appearances on here). For the most part, I think she gave up trying to rule Spain, and a more active leader would, as I think, be more fitting. But good point. We'll see how that plays through :P

--  Jeremiah Garland

Actually,no, I'm not inactive. I've been busy recently since I'm moving soon. I admitted Spain to Pearson about a month ago, which I did tell a few people to get the word out about, though it appears that didn't work. Might I add, though, that it doesn't matter if you aren't fond of who the current and, yes, rightful leader is. That right can't and shouldn't be stripped from anyone. Let's say (at a loss for examples) Davy Hookwrecker suddenly becomes disliked, and leads his China in a way you don't support. Well, you wouldn't ignore the fact that he exists and replace him (the latter being against our rules). No, you would solve it in someway. War, compromise, whatever, but not this.

<font face="Viner Hand ITC"> Mad ster  <font face="Viner Hand ITC""> was here 00:51, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

You have a good point, Mad. But Pearson is more than disliked, he is hated on here. Simply acknowledging him as the leader of Spain is only hurting ourselves. I will see how Jack Pistol, Matthew Blastshot, and Parax feel on this matter.

--   Jeremiah Garland

Well for sure, Madster, war is not the very popular option. I would suggest a meeting over that.

Jordan
I Basil Galifizois Brawlmonk Hearby Request The Crown And Great Nation Of Jordan. Taking Such An Amazing Territory Would Be My Great Honor.

Signed Basil Brawlmonk


 * Jordan is currently under control of the Ottoman Empire by this point. As such, you cannot take Jordan without consulting the sultan-- 22:22, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Jordan
I Basil Galifizois Brawlmonk Request The Crown And Full Owner Ship Of Jordan It Is Right Near Israiel. I would be very honored and pleased if I can have such a great unclaimed territory

(RealBasilBrawlmonk (talk) 00:34, July 14, 2012 (UTC))
 * I already told you above, Basil: Jordan is territory of the Ottoman Empire. You need to consult the Ottoman sultan if you want a position.-- 00:40, July 14, 2012 (UTC) does everything belong to him


 * Dude....
 * Basil, you need help.
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Romania Application July 2012
I would like to request the ownership of Papal States as the Role Playing Map says that Papal States is not taken! Romania would greatly appreciate it and we hope that you will have a nice day! Regards, 01:12, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Al, I realise you are trying to expand Romania, but this might be a little much... First of all, the Papal States is home to the seat of the Catholic Pope, and when Romania is predominantly Greek / Russian Orthodox, this would cause many problems. Also, Romania was not exactly a world power at this time (and never actually were :P)... I'm sorry, but I'd have to for non-historical and non-realistic reasons. If you really want the Papal States, you could trade Romania for it, but I don't think having both would work. Sorry, but that's just my vote. Let's wait to see how Jack, Parax, and Matthew feel about this.

--  Jeremiah Garland   02:54, July 14, 2012 (UTC) Oh? Where does it say I can not be a World Power? This is role play! W edont go by everything historically! Lol! Let us see... Hmmm Would n't it be historically incorrect for many other things in other countries? Hey let us take Hawaii for example! Hawaii does not even exist ye tand even if it did it is not acting as its own country like Marc is making it. Yet w eallow it because it is just role play. What about Portugal? Oh wait Portugal is yours! How convenient. Would there not be religious problems too? You bring that up yet we allow it. What about CSAS! CSAS was a transaction you mad emaking it a legal country an dit doe snot even exist! But when I try to claim a different land that is of different religion and try to make it apart of a different country it will neve rbe you deny it. Isn't the point to give small countries such as Romania, Malta, and MANY OTHERS to get the chance to claim land? I am just wondering. Go ahead deny my request. I would like one thing: Tell me countries/kingdoms I CAN COMPLETELY RIGHTFULLY claim. And excuse any rudeness in this 03:18, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, first of all about Portugal: I gave it back to Grace, it's completely her's now, and the CSAS no longer exists, so be sure to get your facts straight next time. As for Hawaii, we've been through this. I said there are some historical exceptions, and Hawaii just so happens to be one of them because Marc is Hawaiian in real life and British explorers actually did colonize Hawaii during this century. Also, I'm confused by your... method of talking. What does "dit doe snot" mean?

Al, I'm sorry I opposed. That was my honest opinion, and does not give you any right to argue. I didn't say my decision was official, I clearly said we should wait for Jack, Parax, and Matthew's input. You are really starting to sound power-hungry, not just by the fact you argued my honest opinion for land, but by the fact you can't be contempt with Romania. What is wrong with Romania? Why do you desperately have to claim more land? When your the only one on the wiki representing your country, it is difficult to build up the empire of your dreams. Besides, don't forget who it was who gave you Romania in the first place...

But, if you really desperately need more land, I'd start by negotiating trade with the Ottoman Empire for Bulgaria or something, I don't know. The roleplay nations well is becoming uncomfortably dry, and we need more kingdoms for newer users to get a shot at ruling, which is why other countries can't claim them. As I also said, Romania isn't exactly a "powerhouse" and in no way could they conquer the Papal States like that. It even took years for Napoleon to do that. Al, I'm sorry, I'm just not understanding what your motive is, other than what it appears to be: power-hunger.

--  Jeremiah Garland   03:58, July 14, 2012 (UTC) Umm well I have nook problems and it has the worst auto correct. But I am not power hungry and I barely have any land I can trade around. All I want is one strip of land I can keep to possibly trade with someone as I have plans preffered not to be spoken of. Plus I am not the only one representing Romania. I have been building things up lately and have been looking for allies. We are growing currently an dI do not want to actually be a powerhouse I wa sjust in a pissed off mood. I do not mean to be power hungry. I am havong a har dtime trying to get what I would like. To be specific I would like to acquire a certain Spanish Colony in New Spain. But know for a loooong time if eve rI will not be getting it. I have plans to get things around. And I am sorry for my attitude just so much going on. Blastshot denied also by the way which means youd need Pistola and Parax to both agree in order for a possiblity for me to obtain such land.

Garland is quite right, Albert. Although, it is available it would be unrealistic for you to claim it in the name of Romania, because technicaly the people would not be too happy with your rule because of the religious conflict and the fact that they probably prefer independance anyway. Therefore the only realistic way you could take this land was through war. As Garland said, you are not a world power so this may be a difficult task. As you would most likely end up facing many other Catholic countries, besides just this one. Therefore I your claim and would not recommend trying to gain it through war.



Scarletmerica
I would like to rule a fanmade country called Scarletmerica and want it to be roleplay.It comes from the imagination.Will Greasescarlett (talk) 01:59, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Noooope :D

--  Jeremiah Garland   02:22, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

You're not an admin,let admin say it.
 * Garland has every right. He is one of the RP councilors.
 * Jeremiah Garland, Jack Pistol, Parax., and Matthew Blastshot are Role Play Counciler. The Admins do not have any real control over the Role Play Council with the exception of the two councilers that are Admina, Jack Pistol and Parax. [[File:RSig3Norm.png]] 19:49, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Albert is right. I say no anyway. So you now have 2 opposes.


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I AM PARAX, AND I OPPOSE THIS SUGGESTION! That would be a 3/4 council opposition.-- 21:20, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Establishing who the true leader of France is.
There's been many pointless disputes recently. The United Allies are claiming ownership over the Nation of France. This is starting to get very annoying. Duchess of Anemois/Grace Goldtimbers instated Jack Bluehawk as King because she didn't trust the rightful heir, Jack Swordmenace. Duchess returned and reclaimed power, and by doing this, her husband, Pearson Wright also got his power back as the rightful king. Unless Duchess divorces Pearson, he is still the rightful king. If something happens to her, then whoever Pearson marries becomes the new Queen of France. That's how monarchy works. The United Allies are squabling over something that they did not fight for, or rightfully inherit. Something needs to be done about this.

Lord Hector Wildhayes (talk) 18:48, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just happened to notice this. Anyways, Pearson is currently ruler of Spain. One nation/country per person. :/-- 19:27, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Pary, remember he gave the throne to Elizabeth O'Malley meaning he doesn't rule it, however, he is Prime Minister.

19:32, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yet he is "married" to her, and appears to rule over Spain like a king. That's the behavior I've seen lately. :/

And second… how is he married to Grace and Elizabeth…? O_o-- 23:05, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bavaria
I would like Bavaria to become a recognized nation.

Bavaria has been the Nation of the Telltales, Nikolai's, Firenses and has been the home for the Order of Nautilus. The Order of Nautilus, in roleplay, Founded the nation and established Lodges all over bavaria. The order Organized the Bavarian military and defenses. There are Several articles I have made with info about the Bavarian RP nation.

I am also the established ruler of RP Bavaria as well, but I assume thats already assumed I know I just rejoined the wiki but I would also like to apply for RP council



<fontface=Vivaldi size=4px color=Gold>Nicholas Nikolai can help you with a sig too! Just leave a message on my talkPage!

I believe that's an independent Germanic state you have claim to already.

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John is right, but I think there might be other claims around the wiki or outdated information contradicting this.



Request For Persia
I Basil Brawlmonk Hearby Request Control Of Persia. And All Its Territories. If I Could Have A Response soon that would be great

Very Thankfully

Basil Brawlmonk

I because of your recent actions and attempts to form a country. It is annoying when users such as yourself constantly try to form a country without permission. There are rules, learn them.



I am not sure on whether or not you have good intentions for your power, considering the constant attempts to get a nation… Second, Persia is already owned by Robert Shipstealer, AKA Captain Robert. Robert has been online not too long ago, thus not considered inactive enough.-- 21:34, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

As per Parax and Matthew, I also you just seem to want a country, not really caring which. One of the rules to claiming a country is you must "have a decent understanding and historical knowledge of the country requested." Seeing you thought it was part of the Ottoman Empire, you clearly do not have decent historical knowledge of Persia.

--  Jeremiah Garland   21:40, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Same as the rest, I. Can't make much stronger points, and yeah the current rules has been very active ( he mastered his main recently ).



Request For Nexia
I Request The Nation Of Nexia. I Worked Hard On Its Page. I intend to use it for good reasons. I Have never been in power. Parax said I could request so ya. Thankyou. I put my all into the page for nexia please put that in mine.

Basil, I'm sorry, but it's one of the rules that a nation ''must have actually existed. Nexia is a country you created, therefore my answer is no. Since you really want a country, I'm going to give you a piece of advice: why don't you let the country thing go for a while, and then maybe in a couple weeks make another request on here asking for a real ''country. By showing your patience, you will have proved to us how responsible you can be, and then you can rule a country. But, it must be a downright no on Nexia, as it is fictious. I'm sorry you worked hard on the page, but you should have asked before making it.

--  Jeremiah Garland   01:42, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Assuming I am in this council, I shall contribute with my opinion.

Basil, I agree with Jeremiah, no doubt. You can not have a country that doesn't exist, as we are trying to keep roleplay as historically accurate as possible. Nexia never has existed, therefor we cannot grant you the title of its ruler, I'm sorry. You should take Jeremiah's advice, and we might just let you rule a country. However, you must prove to us that you're trustworthy and responsible of doing so.

<font face="Lucida Blackletter">Jack Goldwrecker

@Jack: Not yet, but soon, hopefully. :P

@Basil: First, I said that you would have to request it. I didn't say you could, yet. Normally I'd be encouraging for people to have their own country as long as you're not claiming territory you don't deserve/shouldn't have/don't legit own. However, I must because of the following reasons:
 * 1) You can only make a request once a month. This is to prevent spam.
 * 2) I feel that you don't actually have good intentions with your power. So far, all I see is you trying to get a grab at power, not caring what you get, as long as it's a position of power.

Anyways, as for your Nexia page, there is only one way to preserve it should this be turned down: simply make it non-roleplay, then request it to be roleplay next month. This does not mean as soon as it turns August, but exactly a month (30-31 days)after your last request.-- 01:57, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Once again,. There is nothing wrong with creating fictitious islands and factions etc. but you can't really claim them as a country. Since this is a fanon wiki, fictious creations are encouraged, which makes me realize we have a grey area. What if a legit fictitious faction gets a lot of support, has the capable knowledge and all other requirements either tries to claim or conquer another country? If it was legit, and met the requirements and had the backing I would say that could be allowed, but this is most certainly not, sorry.



Philippines
I am requesting the Philippines and all of its territories 69.149.69.101 05:29, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Philippines are currently Spanish territory.-- 05:32, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

The request for the philippines was made by nick sharkhayes
 * Yet the Philippines are still Spanish territory.-- 05:35, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I, Nick Sharkhayes, claim the country of Bhu!


 * I haven't heard of such a place O_o-- 05:40, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Is Bhu available? I would think so bc it is a very small country south of china

Ikmit exists I'm staring at a map right now 69.149.69.101 05:41, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

If ya can't find it it very small south of china

I also claim the south sandwich islands 69.149.69.101 05:49, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) One nation to rule per person to keep the balance.
 * 2) The South Sandwich Islands weren't even discovered yet.
 * 3) I cannot find Ikmit or Bhu.

-- 05:51, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I claim The Bahamas 69.149.69.101 05:54, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Bahamas were part of the British Empire. They can't be claimed. You don't seem to really care what country you get…-- 05:56, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I claim one country that isn't claimed! Can ya list them?

Btw I think that cool down ban RLY helped

Parax, ya there?69.149.69.101 06:22, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Par, haven't you seen that this user isn't even known nor is registered? He may even be making countries up. He's definitely not qualifified in my eyes. Btw, "Ikmit" was a typo. He meant "Ik it." I think. So I would say probably no. Jack G.

I agree with Jack. This guy is not registred, so could be anyone and he is obviously power-hungry. Rest assured, I ain't power hungry, I just want to rule a country based on fairness and freedom



If I may cut in the Sandwich Islands aka the Hawaiian islands are under my control. I am the current monarch of the Kingdom Of Hawaii.

Wiki contributor, you have been on here for a couple days and have made many edits. Yet why do you not make an account? If you do not know how, simply click the button that reads "sign up" in the upper right-hand corner.

As for your country requests, I will have to agree with the others and. We want people to lead who are serious and mature with their country, and since you seem to just jump at the first land available, I doubt you'd fit that criteria. As also stated above, Philippines is Spanish land, Bahamas are British / Spanish, and the Sandwich Islands are Hawaiian (if you are refering to the South Sandwich Islands in the southern Atlantic Ocean, those are British as well but nonetheless unavailable). If by "Bhu" you are referring to the Asian kingdom of Bhutan, I suppose that land is valid. I don't know why you'd want Bhutan though: they are land-locked with no navy, poor, tiny, and completely cut-off from the world until the 1970s. Nonetheless, I'd still oppose given the stated fact you only seem to want land to rule. If you really wish for a country to lead, I recommend doing the following: Follow those steps, and then we'll negotiate you getting some land you want. The reason I don't make account is can't give parents email address
 * 1) Make an account
 * 2) Do some research on the wiki and find out what countries are already claimed (you can find the official list of currently-owned nations here).
 * 3) Find or select a country that isn't already claimed, and make sure it is not a colony / region / protectorate of another nation.
 * 4) Research that country, and obtain a basic knowledge and understanding of the country's background and current status.
 * 5) Wait a few days, obtain some edits.
 * 6) Come back here and make a request in a new section, telling us what unclaimed country you want, some basic information about the country and its background, and why you think you should rule it.

--  Jeremiah Garland   21:52, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I CLAIMTHE BAHAMAS 69.149.69.101 16:02, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, you don't. Same reasons I told you before.-- 21:06, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

The Imperial Legion
I request that all of the lands in this so called, "Legion," be placed in Emperor Kwagar's Empire. Davy Gunfish doesn't deserve any of this land, Kwagar is the rightful ruler of, "The Legion". I also ask that Davy Gunfish be banished from role-playing, as he has claimed many false titles and lands that are not his, he has declared war on countless nations and is a tyrant. 64.31.16.242 20:48, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just… idiotic. You're coming here and demanding that he is banished, and that everything he got over time to be given over to you. G-man is not a tyrant, and I don't see him "declaring war on countless nations." Furthermore, you get land from people by warring (and the person you are attacking is given a choice to accept or decline. You will accept their decisions)or negotiating with the ruler. If this passes, I'm doing the same to you so you see how it's like.-- 21:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

for the same reason as Parax. G-Man has done nothing wrong.

--  Jeremiah Garland   21:32, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Same reasons as above and just plain ridiculous. - looks at Breasly - Is there not some rebellion we should be planning xD?



Unnamed section
I hereby claim theempireof Jordan in Asia.
 * You can't. It is part of Ottoman territory.-- 02:39, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

I looked it up, and Croatia isn't claimed.
 * I have been informed that BoogieMango is in control of it. I will speak to him to see if this is true.-- 02:44, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Zimbabwe
I claim Zimbabwe if Croatia isn't already claimed, and I ain't power hungry, just want to establish a country based on freedom and fairness 69.149.76.119 02:49, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Noted. A vote will begin in the RP Council on whether or not you'll get Zimbabwe.-- 02:59, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Thx

Please make a wiki account. Otherwise, I strongly also, don't say "I claim Zimbabwe", you can request it, but not claim it.

--  Jeremiah Garland   03:06, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hey I only don't have account cause I have no email and cant get one

I. For one, you are a random contributor, so we have no idea who you are or if you meet the requirements. Secondly, at this point in history "Zimbabwe" was completely uncolonized so it would be a bunch of tribes or bantu kingdoms, which I suspect is not what you are after. This leads me to think that you do not have the required knowledge of the land.



Ok, I do have knowledge of Zimbabwe and it is what I am after, since it is un colonized, I can start teaching the tribes theprincibles of freedom, and found a federal// democratic government.

That sounds rather unrealistic, but I will wait for other votes.



If there were less people like you, the game might actually progress. No, you have no understanding of the 1700s. Zimbabwe was uncontrolled at the time, as it was tribal. Listen to Jackie, he's African. There's no such word as "democracy" in the 1700s. It was either a monarch, emperor, or dictator. There's no "presidents," "democracies," or "republics." Even if there were, I doubt you'd have the knowledge to create one.

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Democracy wasn't a form of government at the time, its difficult to see what "democracy" is, but at this current time what you would call a republic didn't exist. "Zimbabwe" didn't exist, and in all honestly if you wanted to make the tribes into a federal republic, you'd get killed, assuming you come as a European, if you wanted to be a local of "Zimbabwe" and turn it into a republic, you'd get killed as well, because theres no way they would give up their tribal sovereignty and freedom to be a larger nation. I'd suggest you make an account btw

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1. Croatia belonged to the Austrians at this time. Zagreb was major hub for trade.

2. ‘Zimbabwe‘ did not exist at this time. It was, I believe, still known as the Kingdom of Mutapa (later Rhodesia after British colonialist Cecil Rhodes) and was completely isolated from Europeans at this time. Not even the Dutch at Kaapstad knew they existed.

3. It is landlocked, so it wouldn't be very influential besides maybe in Southern Africa.

4. You clearly know nothing about either Croatia or ‘Zimbabwe‘ (which it was not called until 1980 when it gained its independence . . .) showing you clearly don't deserve it, as you are just looking for a country to claim. If you hadn't been so forward in saying you ‘claim it‘ I would have gladly informed you of the available role-playing nations (and there are a few significant ones open).



Request For Marathas Confederacy
Hello I Am Basily Galifizois Peter Michael Brawlmonk. Former Member Of The British Government. I Succeeded. I Am Sorry If I Left On Short Notice. But TO THe Point. I Request Marathas Confederacy ( Not COunting India ). It Is Not Ottoman. It Is Pakistan And Bangladesh Which In 1745 Were Under THe Rule Of Marathas Confederacy. I Have Dont My Studies On It. I Would Be VERY Greatfull If I Get The Confederacy/Empire. IT Has Been A Month. Pakistan Is Not Under British Control Neither Is Bangladesh. They Are Open And In Marathas Confederacy. Thank you For Your Time. My Compliments And Well Wishes To ALL!!!



After seeing what he does in game and other activity I believe we can give him a country. Therefore I

19:38, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Im the former Guildmaster of A V E N G E and i support marathas confederacy!

Just so you know, Basil was asking me to support this in chat. I think people who did this before got their chances lowered, idk.

EDIT: He removed this post, so now I'm heavily going to, he's doing an old 'Hide All Evidence' trick.

-- Pencil-   Talk 00:13, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

The slimy little sod deleted Pencil's post to ensure he wins. He explained that "he's been trying for months to get a spot, and can't let it go to waste"; this shows obvious power hunger. With what he did, he shows he doesn't deserve any RP power.-- 00:25, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

As per Parax, I also you are clearly power-hungry. And after reading Parax's recent blog, this only gives me more reason to oppose. Did you really think you could delete Pencil's blog without anybody noticing? Congratulations, you just hit a new low. Also, is too much to bloody ask you to speak English? What the hell does "I Have Dont My Studies On It" bloody mean? If you are trying to say you have researched the Maratha Confederacy, it's obvious you're lying; most of Bangladesh was under British rule, and most of Pakistan was under the Persian Safavid Caliphate and the Durrani Empire. The Maratha Confederacy only owned small parts of each, as well as most of southern India. Nonetheless, you clearly do not deserve this land, and I officially propose a ban from you ever requesting RP land again.

-- Jeremiah Garland

I for the same reasins as pencil and  garlands request for a ban.

I for all the above reasons. Sorry Basil.

~ Jack Goldwrecker

As per Garland and Par, you clearly do not deserve this. You have tirelessly tried everything to get land, showing power hunger.



Just throwing in my little opinion. That's not worthy of banning him from roleplay, it'd actually just be trading off one childish act with another.

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Not trying to reignite an old flame here, but all the Maratha Confederacy owned at the time was Bijapur and Carnatica, and even those cities (both of which having housed great religious unrest due to the transition from Islam to Hinduism) were under constant threat of Mughal attack.

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Persia
Hello, I'm Jade Heartkidd. I've wanted to roleplay as a country other than England for a while now, and all the countries have either not been taking in any more roleplayers, or could not follow through with inviting me and answering my questions. The other day I came across a blog from my friend asking about the countries available. I came across Persia in a response, and that seemed to fit with me well. I went to various websites, and have started research on Persia, or currently called Iran. I am still learning about this country. This brings me to my reason to add to this project page. I would like to request the country of Persia to become my roleplay land. I believe that I would be a worthy leader of this country, keeping peaceful relations with fellow leaders and roleplayers, as that is my natural nature.

This brings me to a question: if I did recieve this country, would I have to form a guild for it, and how big would this government of this country have to be? I was hoping that if I was granted Persia I could rule it with close friends. Would this be exceptable?

I thank you very much for reading what I've had to say, whether you approve my request or not. Thank you so much.

JadeHeartkidd (talk) 00:57, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unsure. I am pretty sure Robert Shipstealer (I think?)is ruler of Persia. Will have to research this further.-- 13:45, August 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I take back my request...but please, in the future, make sure members of the roleplay council don't go around telling people things are available when they aren't. And yes, I saw his Shah Robert Shipstealer last night. It belongs to him. JadeHeartkidd (talk) 13:52, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Well Im not aware of who owns WHAT. So today I'm gonna make my second request. Since The Khenmar had fallen before this games year, I did some thinking and researching. So today I request Burma.every time I asked what was free, Burma was listed so... Ya... I promise I am researching Burmese history. So please consider making me Ruler of Burma goodbye :D

JohnnyPlundertimbers1 (talk) 04:19, September 3, 2012 (UTC)JohnnyPkundertimbers1JohnnyPlundertimbers1 (talk) 04:19, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Fellow Wikians
Hello, after reading about the possible dissolvement of The Kalmar Union and the possible dissolvement of Switzerland, I would like to get ahead of the crowd and ask tis Council for ownership of Sweden. I know I may have angered some of the users here in that little "Swiss Rebellion", But I hope that wont effect my chances of recieving Sweden. I believe I should get this country because I know much about world history in this time, my family heirs from Scandinavia, (Norwegian) and whatever I don't know can be learned. I hope the kind you kind councilmen will accept this. Keep in mind that I know it has not been officially dissolved.

Sincerely,

User JosephCoalSmythe

No. The Kalmar Union isn't being dissolved. Anyone who tries will be shot down by Great Britain.

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John, the Kalmar Union was dissolved in 1523. Cad is extremely inactive. So hisorically it shouldn't even exist at all. ..



Coalsteel < Daggersteel. Quite simple.

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It's more like

Coalsteel < Breasly, Goldtimbers, Mallace, and  DAGGERSTEEL .

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Coalsmythe...

Joseph Coalsmythe, Duke of Zurich

It hasn't ‘stood’ since 1523, 222 years before the current role-play date. ..



Jarod, let's be honest here. The only reason you want the Kalmar Union dissolved is so you can earn more land for your "powerful Dutch empire." Here's the fact of it. During this time period, the Dutch weren't as magnificent as you made them out to be. They were lying cheats who were hated by most. And they often lost land over petty arguments. I, as well as most of the roleplay community, trusted that you would not live up to the hate.... but sadly, you're living up to it. Stop trying to become the world power you're not, and just let roleplay be.

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John, I am being completely calm here when I say that I did not want it for me. Goldvane wanted a country to rule and I suggested Sweden. I have only stated facts here. I haven't insulted your bloody nation, so why do you feel a need to insult mine?



Okay, so basically, you want to dissolve a roleplay nation, using the power of a wiki, so an admin can get himself a country I'm certain he did not earn. Right.

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There is no point in keeping a nation 200 years past its dissolvement with a inactive leader. I didnt want to start a arguement.

Lord Joseph Coalsmythe, Duke of Zurich

I never said anything about dissolving it. I just said that historically it was dissolved in 1523 so it shouldn't exist. The leader is inactive anyway. I was just trying to help out Gold. And anyway, I'm told you own Denmark. Denmark was part of the Kalmar Union as well, so technically it's something different enitrely. ..



Do you have any knowledge of all over the subject? Obviously not. Chronologically... Meanwhile, the dwarf is completely unheard of. He suddenly comes marching in acting like he should be a world power. Then he tries to dissolve other nations so his buddies can get a piece of the pie.
 * 1) John Macbatten takes over Denmark, without grounds.
 * 2) I wrestle him for power, and eventually succeed.
 * 3) Cad finds the area where the Kalmar Union once stood completely unoccupied.
 * 4) With much support from Great Britain, and several guilds, he reformed the Kalmar Union.

It's looking real good on your side ;)

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John, honestly, you could have just told me that and I would have apologised. I did not know he reformed it. Did I bloody say I'm a world power? No. I made a Dutch guild in 2009/early 2010 then I went inactive for a while and came back in December 2010 or so. Excuse me if I didn't know. I'm not trying to dissolve anything, I was just informing you that historically didn't exist, not knowing that Cad reformed it or whatever. Gold just wanted a nation and he looked at the nations I took the time to list for people. He was wondering if he could have Sweden, so I was just acting on his behalf.



All I will say is, if you get rid of Switzerland then you get rid of the Kalmar Union and the other countries that don't exist at this time.



Cad Bane has basically gone AWOL. I would fully support a dissolvement of The Kalmar Union. Even though my opinion probably won't even be taken to thought.

Lord Joseph Coalsmythe, Duke of Zurich

Let's not fight here. I wanted a country and Jarod suggested Sweden, so I said "sure". I didn't know it would make everyone freak out. Does anyone currently own Sweden? If so, I accept that. But I would prefer some proof that it is entitled to somebody. I dont' want to cause any fights here or take anybody's land. There's no need for you to attack anybody, John, if something isn't right I'm not going to do it. 23:49, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't you already have Indonesia? O_o-- 01:33, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

He is the Viceroy of the Dutch Easy Indies, yes.



Kalmar Union is Cad's. That's that. Nobody is taking it unless Cad himself comes on the wiki, says publicly he's giving up the crown, and names an heir. Denmark is indeed British; as John said, he fought a roleplay war for it, and it's one of those weird historical exceptions. Yes, the Kalmar Union dissolved some 200 odd years ago, but Cad has (roleplayingly) reformed it and currently rules it under that name. Also, for the record, the Kalmar Union's territories currently consist of: all of Norway, most of Sweden, and about half of Finland (as well as Iceland, Greenland, Svalbard, and Faroe Islands). As for the remaining parts of Sweden and Finland, those are unclaimed, but it would prove ridiculous for anybody to claim those as their "kingdoms", as those lands are uninhabitated and a buffer zone. Also, yes, Cad has been inactive for a few weeks, but we must give him a reasonable amount of time to return before drastic measures are made.

In relevance to the vote, I.

-- Jeremiah Garland

Yes, but how long has it been since he has actually edited a page? Not just visited people on the chat or just left a solemn comment.

Lord Joseph Coalsmythe, Duke of Zurich
 * Methinks Coalsmythe just wants a slice of land… May I kill him, Master?-- 18:43, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Request : Plains Nations
I would like to request the Plains Nations be under my control, and if I am correct, their only territory was the Black Hills. Thank you, and good day

03:59, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

But your European? ^_- And most of the Indian Land was already claimed by the French.

19:51, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Not exactly. I am mostly Cherokee Indian in real life, and the Black Hills were untouched until the US took over in the mid-late 1800s 21:39, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

This was never a legitimate country, nor recognised as one, ergo you cannot roleplay as its leader.

-- Jeremiah Garland 03:06, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

The only legitimate Native American nation might be either the Iriqouis Confederacy or the Cherokee Nations.



Alright, Garland, Jar, I can easily understand and I respect the decision of you. I will give up the thought. Thank you anyway. 23:13, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Kingdom of Bavaria
I would like to claim Bavaria, I'm well equiped and ready to lead the nation as a respected and good leader.. I've heard its been taken but still not sure.

KingdomOfBavaria (talk) 00:28, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the wiki, King! Sadly, I am not currently aware of the status of Bavaria. Due to this, I think it's best to wait for the other members of this council answer. I think that you actually would be a good leader, but if Bavaria is open, I think it's best to wait a two weeks or so to observe your "qualifications." :P

Until further notice, I am in this vote.

Sincerely,

Thank you for your feedback good man.

KingdomOfBavaria (talk) 12:45, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

From what I heard, this is already taken by Jack Pistol, meaning you'll have to get his permission for rights to it.-- 18:52, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Request: The discovery of Australia
Yes i know first of all that its too futuristic yet in the timeline but im the only user that lives in Australia and i'd like to be able to embrace my country as a role playing nation under the British Empire and of course make my self Governor of The New South Wales Colony in RP. I humbly request this on this day the 30 of October, 1745.

Lieutenant General Richard Venables 01:50, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Technically you'd have to ask me, and we're about 20 years before our time, so....

lolnope.

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03:09, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

We need to wait after the Colonies rebel... grr By then we would have established a great Pacific Power that would increase our economic growth and stability because we will have a giant mass of profits by means of land grants, convict labour, and exporting native cedar back to England. Or it shall be a hell-hole for any enemies captured by the British :D But it also served as a perfect place to start civilization due to the wonderful trees and lumber :D It is the successor of those.. colonies... unlucky 13. BAH. The Dutch cannot even see it's potential and to them it is just land to land for a few days chop a few trees down take the food and leave... It shall be us to make the Empire far grand like.. :P

Personally I think without Australia we wouldn't have the enormous impact on Asia in the Century to come :P In time Venables... in good time..

19:47, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Lol. Abel Tasman, who I have studied a lot, explored it about a hundred years ago in RP and also named thought of the name New Zealand, which is named after a  province of the Netherlands. We did actually have a small colony there as well as formal ownership of West Australia, Van Diemen's Land aka Tasmania, named in his honour, and New Zealand, as well as a few small islands in the vicinity of what was, for a very long time, known as New Holland. The reason we didn't colonise it on a large scale was because the land was terrible. The Dutch Indies to the north, however, were held onto as long as possible due to being so wealthy in valuable trade resources.



Request For the Joeseon Empire
I Basil Brawlmonk hearby request the untaken lands of the Joeson empire ( the Koreans ) The Joeseon empire at that time ruled over korea. I wish to establish a good trade relation with all countries. Thank you

Thank you fellow Wikians

My Regards

- Basily Galifizois Brawlmonk IV

Uh.. It wasn't founded thousands of years ago. The country of South Korea itself started in 1945, after WWII and shananigans with the Japanese. There were people on the land - most likely natives and/or exiled Japanese citizens, however a formal formation of government and colonization of the land didn't happen until 1745. For a time, it was under the territory of Japan, but not in 1745. So, I'll go - because the Joseon Empire, which covered the land, did exist at that time. So perhaps you wish to change your request for the Joseon lands? South Korea didn't exist.

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No, no, have it all wrong, he does. North Korea has the troops, South Korea, the slackers. Mr. PSY no es here.



Kore in a whole is controlled by the Joseon Dynasty. As Boogie said South and North Korea did not exist during 1745. You need to claim Korea as a whole in able to get support due to Historical accuracy and become Yeongjo of Joseon.

19:36, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

@Goldy- I said that :P

Hmmm... I don't think too lightly on the claiming of indigenous regions such as this, as they are not really "nations" per se, but rather isolated self-governing entities unknown to the then-known world. Alas, if we allow Japan to be claimed, it'd be bias not to allow the Joseon Empire. Still, I am.

-- Jeremiah Garland

Roleplay Request: Corsica
I Richard Venables wish to request Corsica as my personal kingdom please.

Lieutenant General Richard Venables 01:42, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

I already requested Genoa which currently holds Liguria and Corsica, so I don't think this will be accepted.

- Joseph Coalsmythe

I belive 1755 is the official date of which ended the Republic. So yes, it is part of Genoa, and I believe we have previously sorted out the issue with Genoa. Sorry, but I am going to have to this.

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Australia
I would like to claim Austraila by this december when i get membership. if this land is already taken please notify me as soon as possible so i can choose another. if this land is open i would take it by december 31 the latest

Yours Truly,

Captian Zeus: Casa Di Royale

Australia is currently unexplored land. The only part of it, at this point, that has been explored would be the northern coast, which is presently part of the Dutch Empire. Much apologies, but I due to historical inaccuracies.

-- Jeremiah Garland 23:39, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Is there any Nation that hasent been claimed that i can have?????(happy thanksgiving by the way)?

You can check our map to find out any countries that are unclaimed. At this time, I am not positive? if there are any left. As towards your request, I am going to agree with Jeremiah and due to an innacurate measure of history/time. Keep in mind we're in 1745, soon to be 1746 come January.

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Captian Zeus

Im not exactly sure about this but i did some reasearch and found the Holy Roman Empire still exsisted at this time. Im wondering if anyone has claimed it and if not i was wondering if i could. I am a current member of Casa Di Royale and im thinking of claming this country and use it to dominate the Spanish Empire. I could use some help to! Thanks for everything even if you decline.

Forgot to sign sorry?

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Australia
Hello,

Yes I know time and time again you have rejected people from claiming Australia. I have a defence on how Australia is not claimed by anyone in this time in History. Yes, the Dutch did send The Dutch East India Company to scope things out there, but they found no use for it and simply abandoned it. It remained untouched by Europe until around 1769 when James Cook came across it. Therefore you cannot say it is owned or claimed by any country because at this time in history it simply was not. I would like to claim it but I know I will get turned down, it would be nice to though. I just wanted you to know that no country has claimed it in this time.

Thank you,

02:19, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

We are aware that it is unclaimed. It was not opposed due to claims, it was because of historical inaccuracies.-- 02:22, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Blahhh you so mean :(   02:25, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, as Parax said, it is completely uninhabitated and virtually undiscovered at this time. So, it'd be very much like someone trying to claim Antarctica; you just can't. Therefore, I

-- Jeremiah Garland 05:18, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't say COMPLETELY uninhabited. But in the words of the VOC directors, “A continent peopled by poor naked people. . . very bad tempered“ would not warrant further expenditure.



Unnamed section
I claim england

- Nick Sharkhayes

Nick, you are a true idiot. John Breasly is the head of England  20:47, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

I claim france

- Nick Sharkhayes

Nice try Tyler xD  05:16, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

I CLAIM ANY UNTAKEN COUNTRY

THIS WAS WRITTEN BY NICK SHARKHAYES

lol jk I was reading the page and I saw his earlier comments showing his hunger for power. I thought I should bring back his amazing legacy.



I'm not getting invaded by any ponies, OR elephants! This is outrageous! xD 14:41, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

The Country Of Zimbabwe form request
Thank god I found this. Sadly I made the page before I knew about the council (I found out 5 minutes later about this)

Anyhow, I would be honored to get approved, but if its not, its no big deal, thank you admins very much for considering. The Country of Zimbabwe -Awaiting Approval- P.S. If this is approved, I saw above about the whole request form to be a leader, if so, I will make one.

Zimbabwe was actually not referred to by its current name up until very very recently. Explored by British explorer Cecil Rhodes, who named it for himself as Rhodesia, it was not until the 1890s that Europeans set foot in this land. Besides, it is landlocked and basically just a bunch of warring tribal kingdoms collectively known to the Boers farther south as Zambesia after the Zambezi River. Basically, if a European set foot there, they would most likely be killed on sight unless they came with an army.



I must agree with Jarod and. Not only is it not known as Zimbabwe, but it has not been colonized yet.



May I please have a list of avalible countries? Gamer124 (talk) 02:12, December 1, 2012 (UTC)