Board Thread:The Seven Seas Court/@comment-4093783-20140303211229/@comment-3242795-20140305212701

Parax. wrote:

John Breasly wrote:

Parax. wrote: for now. Admins/mods/rollbacks are users trusted to handle few extra buttons and to keep order on a wiki, not to have their voting rights—no matter how much people may not like them—to be slowly whittled away.

Oyah, and I don't know why they should be forced to have to do this on a community vote when it takes their approval to make it one in the first place. It's a vote for the community, so why not let them all—admins, burs, mods, rollbacks, and people without those rights—express themselves how they truly feel on the vote, rather than stripping them of that. True, they can always vote later when they make up their minds, but if that's the case, then I expect this to spread to all users (considering that everyone has a say in a community vote and thus affects it), rather than just targeting rollbacks+.

We're expected to keep the wiki in check, not act like the government of a first world country. ._. * snort*

Oh, so they're just guys with a few extra buttons? And their rights are being whittled away? Let's talk about all the power the community has. We can write on the SSC, we can talk in comments when allowed, and.... oh yeah, that's it.

What can admins do? They can delete comments and blogs at their own discretion, they can pretty much ban at their own discretion, change and modify rules when necessary, they have complete and utter power over anyone in a disagreement (the admin is always right, apparently), and as of now they don't actually have to vote on anything they don't want to.

You're not the oppressed minority, stop acting like it. We want an administration that doesn't sit on the fence like a bunch of (description here). A decisive administration actually causes fighting and disagreement to crumble, if you've learned anything from your history class. You all keep talking about helping the community. If you want to help it, GET OFF THE FENCE.

DO SOMETHING.

Because voting neutral on every other post is just encouraging inactive administration and elicits and sense of indecisiveness and disagreement in the community.

The cringiness in your whole response is almost too much to handle.
 * 1) Community part: irrelevant to the topic at hand. And, like I said, yes, they are users who handle a few extra buttons and keep the order on a wiki. Sorry that you think otherwise.
 * 2) Hence, keep the order. What's next, ask the user for permission to ban them? Or deleting their comment?
 * 3) I never said nor insinuated that the admins were the "oppressed minority"—I said that you are taking away their right to be neutral in a community vote, which everyone, not just them, have a say in.
 * 4) Do I look like I'm being neutral? No, I'm saying to give rollbacks+ the right to be neutral. The same goes for supposedly endorsing neutrality in every post; I'm not, I'm just saying to give a user, regardless of his or her userrights, the right to be neutral. Sorry you don't like that. :/